Shortly after Nicole’s encounter and arrest, Joe Naugler attempted to retrieve his wife’s vehicle, accompanied by a family friend. The audio of that incident is below. It was edited and digitally enhanced. The static on the original recording is overpowering. Editing also included removal of extended periods of silence. The audio that was originally between 6:43 and 6:44 included the elapsed time that included Joe returning to his 8 other children. It was removed for listener’s sake.
Time Stamp & Description
- 0:00 Joe and family friend en route to scene of Nicole’s arrest to retrieve Nicole’s car and personal items, as requested by the Sheriff. Family friend talking on her phone in background.
- 0:18 Upon arrival, Joe steps out of his car, the Sheriff intimidates Joe by placing his hand on his gun, ready to draw.
- 0:26 Joe tells Sheriff that he is recording the encounter.
- 1:12 Sheriff tells Joe to get in his car. Joe complies, saying “Yes, sir” repeatedly, obviously startled.
- 1:40 Joe enters his own car. Family friend offers to intermediate.
- 2:08 Joe once again exits the car, as requested by the Sheriff.
- 2:20 Sheriff once again consents to recording.
- 3:19 Sheriff tells Joe to turn over all 8 remaining children to state custody at 10:00 am the following morning, or face felony charges.
- 3:40 Joe states that he is being required to turn the children over because he showed up at that location as request by the Sheriff.
- 4:00 Joe realizes his wife’s phone is lost.
- 4:15 Joe calls his wife’s phone, and recovers it.
- 4:30 Joe requests to call his wife at the county jail, is denied, and is given information regarding where to place the children in state custody
- 4:50 Sheriff tell Joe his children are being mistreated because he and his wife won’t comply with requests.
- 5:15 Joe asks for the details of the complaint, again. Sheriff does not answer.
- 6:44 Joe does not stop recording. When he arrives to where his children were, he informed them of everything that had happened, and instructed them regarding their right to remain silent.
I like Joe better than the wife. He seems more calm and compliant. He tells his kids to be reverent and decent when dealing with the cops. I like that.
Just Comply? Is that what you are gonna do when they come to take your kids for illegitimate reasons? Any schmoe with a shiny badge gets to come take your children and you just “comply”?
Perhaps you are not aware of the phenomenon that has been happening in AZ and TX where members of the Zeta drug cartel have been dressing up as law enforcement and conducting no-knock raid style home invasions and kidnapping people. Do you know why this has become a strategy of theirs? Because Americans have been conditioned to be compliant.
Give me a break
You are sick
People ‘just complied’ with the Nazi’s. Look how that worked out, bootlicker.
Have you lost your mind…just comply? The sheriff comes to take your kids and you say just comply?
He came to take her kids because she refused the CPS worker to see that they were ok. She didn’t have to let it go this far. They don’t just take the kids at the first visit. It’s just a well check visit. It’s a shame she didn’t record the events leading up to that sheriffs visit. She has a hot temper.
yes they do just tae kids without a legal reason and warrant. YES she was within her rights, the cop was not. A parent/person has the right to refuse entrwance to property and home to cps and police without a warrant. Also have the right to refuse them to speak to the children. They didnt refuse to comply they wanted their attorney present for it. Legally they should have said ok and gavethem time to arrange the attorney to be present. Ignorance is not an excuse for judmental uneducated cmments. just because you think you know it all doesnt makeyou right, just like the cop wasnt right
Sounds like you are Pontius Pilate.Wash your hands.
That is right brother do not comply at all!!!!!! The time for them is now and soon the time will be for us all!!!!!! To stand and whatever happens? Happens let nthe 6 o clock news call it what ever they want!!!!
You like that because…you are a cop?
Joe should have killed the sheriff on the spot, gathered an army and killed anyone else who stood in the way of getting his family back. People that take our children need to know that they just signed their own death warrant - PERIOD!
There is no law to “run to” for this. This is tyranny and tyranny allowed even one inch will take a mile. There is no reason to respect the sheriff and the “law” when they are agents of evil.
Did David respect Goliath? …No!….In fact after he killed him he cut off his head as a trophy.
If the Oather Keepers are really worth their salt let them put their money where their mouth is and go ARMED to help this man get is family back.
How many more times are we going take another step backwards and draw yet another line in the sand that we pretend that we will not cross? If one is not willing to die for one’s family there is no point living for them either.
But better yet make the agents of the state decide if they are wiling to die for the police state they worship.
our Constitution gives us the right to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness … which one has this family violated? It does not specify how we are to live, nor by whose ideas. The kids appear happy, and the freedom to live “off the grid” is their choice.
Please name Police Chief. Need his name to shame him.Home address to protest in front of his home.
Sheriff Todd Pate is his name. You can find him on youtube when he was featured on the oprah show.
For your information he is a hero has saved a child from being starved beat tied up with chains !
Whatever became of Sheriff Pate’s deputy who was charged with the rape of a 15 year old girl?
Police officers accused in situation involving 15-year-old girl”
http://www.wdrb.com/story/23382061/accusations-against-four-police-officers-and-a-15-year-old-girl
Two former police officers indicted on charges of rape, sodomy
“The other accused officers are former Trooper Jerry Clanton and former Breckinridge Deputy Chris Woosley.”
http://www.wdrb.com/story/24996329/grand-jury-indicts
Oh big deal!!!! So what! Oh and i know they put there lives on the line every day just for you! big deal he has committed a crime therefore do not care what he did ten years ago ok! Maybre during sentencing we will take that upon consideration until then He is in contempt of constitution !!!!
Once a hero, now a villain. Oh how the world goes round and round.
Howard, it is Breckinridge County Sheriff Todd Pate.
Go read their Facebook page and listen to the Sheriff carefully. They are there because of the Facebook pages where Nicole makes a threat against a woman who turned them into CPS. They also have pictures of the young children holding guns. In one picture the young daughter s firing her 22 from the porch and three of her siblings are dangerously close when she does it. That will get your children pulled by CPS every time. If you are going off the grid it is a good idea not to post your fanatical right wing children posing with guns. Tends to attract the cops and CPS.
America is gone. Welcome to Nazi William Zabel land. NOTHING - especially your children - can be siezed without due process - a warant, based on probable cause and then a trial. oh wait. Good old William threw out the constitution and turned us into nazi land long ago. Thanks william. Well, at least we know WHO’s fault it is. It is William Zabels fault we are all Nazi’s now. I would prefer America - the good old America where the Constitution meant something. And cops didn’t beat down black people in the streets.
Really? I has a 20 gauge when I was 12 years old…given to me by my father who taught me gun safety and how to hunt ducks.
You are the fanatic.
Thank you! I thought I was the only one thinking this way. She has a hot temper.
there are lots of children that shoot guns, many get their pictures taken with the gun nothing wrong with it. Teaching a child how to shoot, load and handle a gun safely is considered smart by many. Your probably one of the ignorant people that believe we need tighter gun control laws. your so close minded its scary
Joe, Get all your friends and all your guns and go kill everyone of those NAZI bastards at the police department and the court house - kill em ALL !
im sorry, but I’ve sat here and listened to all of these audios and for the life of me can’t understand why Nicole made this go like it did. If there was a call to CPS by someone, all they need to do is let the worker see that the kids are ok. That’s it. So why did she pull the drama card and go off like a rocket? The sheriff couldn’t have been any calmer or attempt to explain things to her. But she flew off the handle and then started throwing out the “F” bombs for what? All it showed was she was going to be uncooperative to the point that it looked like she had something to hide. I’ll swear, I thought I was listening to an episode of “Cops”. She was out of control. The sheriff kept his composure the whole time. Who cares that they choose to live the way they do? But she was defensive before they even started. Sounded a bit radical to me. I wish I could take back the donation I made. Just wish I would have read and listened before making it. I’m sorry, but she has a hot temper. It’s like she wanted a fight and the sheriff wasn’t even planning on one. Sad that the parents have put the kids in this situation. I can’t believe the dad sat and told the kids that his older children were kidnapped and they would be too. It just doesn’t make sense to me. These poor kids will now believe that the law is always against them because of the way they are being taught. I just don’t get the parents reasoning here.
If you don’t get it, then don’t try. It is to late for your brainwashed mind to conceive the concept of our inalienable rights.
Becky, do you know for sure they were beating and tying up their kids. If you have not seen it or heard it, you have no right to put such a stupid thing like this online. I know Someone this happened to and they were the most loving people I knew. They did end up getting their kids back but that leaves a scar on their name. Wrongfully so! People live like this all over the world. As long as they have the proper tools and equipment to abide by the laws of conservation and waste matter, I do not see any reason for them to lose their children because of some stupid laws from people who have never raised a child, or thinks we should live a by the same means as our city, county, state, and government officials. The kids today need structure and they surely don’t get it in our school systems. most of them don’t get it at home either. I raised my daughter without her father and we started camping when she was very young so she would know how to survive if anything ever happened where she needed to do so. She is one of the few in her age bracket who could live in the wilderness if she had to. There is nothing wrong with that. how did our ancestors do it. Think lady!
do these people have a job to support these kids they must have some kind of support nobody mentioned about the needs of these kids. like food clothing and personal needs
all those of you who say Nicole over-reacted obvious know nothing about about maternal instincts. NEVER piss off the mama bear and don’t even think of threatening the cubs. I hope the cops, cps workers and the woman who stuck her nose in this by complaining hang for this ( not literally but legally)
They both have jobs as stated by the wife and I believe these children are safe and what the cop is doing is completley wrong. In most states an ANONYMOUS cps tip is not valid to warrant child removal. It is stupid and wrong. But then again we all know american cops are corrupt
Some of the people replying here truly disgust me. Please go read the 4th amendment and the 5th amendment. All of these officials take an oath to uphold and defend those guarantees of those rights. They are all breaking their promise. With their power of office come certain duties. Those duties include due process before taking away anyone’s liberty or property. That due process includes actually serving the person with a written sworn charging instrument and proper warrant based on probable cause (that is an actual crime with an injured party). They cannot arrest someone without serving a proper warrant. Anything else makes them far worse than any criminal in my opinion.
Their real job is to protect peoples rights. In my opinion, this is kidnapping, extortion, false arrest, false imprisonment. This is a wonderful American family. Freedom is not free and I wish there were more people like this in the world. Anyone who does not get that and does not agree with the fundamental law of our land - well there is a proper way to change it.
May the good lord open your eyes.
May I suggest you read this;
http://1215.org/lawnotes/lawnotes/honor-dishonor.htm
In my humble opinion, they win because they get you to argue and get into a state of dishonor (I understand there is nothing dishonorable about your cause).
Like I said, this is only my opinion but I really think this is how the bad guys win so much - we are not taught this in school. I believe that making a counter offer is where all of your power lies. Stop stepping into their contracts by accident. Agree (form an agreement) with your adversary quickly while you are in the way with him.
Do this; I would be glad to consider doing that if you do this, this and this.
These counter offers become really powerful when you read and cite their own laws, procedures, charters, and mission statements.
Listen to this guy. Some of his stuff is out there but he is right about contract = law and law = contract.
Wanted to give one more suggestion, always read the statute you are charged with and especially read the definitions of words defined in the statue definitions.
Google “the law means what it says lost horizons” and read the PDF that comes up. It deals with statutory interpretation. It is a real eye opener.
The YouTube Videos
“What The Government Doesn’t Want You To Know About Your Drivers License”
and “The Matrix of your Social Security Number” also expose the statutory tricks used to get around the Constitution.
Also search for “Follow the Clues / Part 1” and behold the scummy legal tricks that are used to get your consent.
I am sad disgusted and I’m Praying for this family!!!!
Child Welfare??? Why is anyone required to “comply” with this? Yes some children need to be taken from abusive situations, however to just go in - without what appears just cause is wrong. So, someone disagreed with the way the family lives the state just gets to take the kids? For those who feel this is okay just think next time it might be your kids or other family members. Don’t judge what you don’t understand! If you feel it’s ok to take kids without good cause, then why don’t you pay to support them?